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Post by liltom1993 on Nov 26, 2011 17:29:44 GMT 10
Whitelist has been edited once more, due to people subjectively griefing/stealing.
This is the list who is able to come on, and it's not changing till bukkit release. Sorry if you have been removed.
mixifizz kingofhuztler electrovir talon93 ookamiaya lisa_block phollop jshwthrs liltom1993 magnusvir eamike261 slithern henrylennox
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Post by nagora on Nov 27, 2011 0:26:44 GMT 10
Damn.. It's still missing my name :/
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Post by slithern on Nov 27, 2011 3:03:12 GMT 10
Sit tight Nagora, you'll be added when bukkit and probably the plugins are updated. Hopefully they'll be ready soon.
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Post by colm13 on Nov 27, 2011 3:40:44 GMT 10
ehh i can see why you removed me, i was on for a few minutes or so but didnt really do anything. single player caught my interest for a while haha:D
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Post by Barzillai on Nov 27, 2011 5:13:43 GMT 10
Baw. I haven't been on in so long either.
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Post by liltom1993 on Nov 27, 2011 9:15:48 GMT 10
Well unfortunately, one of yous is griefing, and noone will own up to it, so I have to do this until I can install plugins to stop it.
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Post by sorrowsblood on Nov 27, 2011 9:36:04 GMT 10
is it possible to change the spawn location once u get plugins? probably gonna need a flat area for spawn town if u make it again... and ive seen a server with 1.0.0 and plugins
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Post by Talon93 on Nov 27, 2011 10:30:38 GMT 10
Not all plugins are Bukkit Sorrow, just ours are. And where was the grief?
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Post by Barzillai on Nov 27, 2011 10:49:39 GMT 10
I think that's unbelievably harsh. Rather than waiting for you guys to get bukkit back up and whitelist me again just to not trust me, I'm leaving. Good luck with your server, I hope you guys can actually form trust in your members rather than accusing them of something they probably didn't do.
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Post by ookamiaya on Nov 27, 2011 13:20:38 GMT 10
Clearly we trusted our members too much, Barz, considering at least one of them was griefing and/or stripmining. Stuff has been stolen and there has been damage that does not look at all like creeper damage or enderman mischief. And nobody is pointing any fingers! I have not heard one accusation, just complaints that griefing has taken place.
So it's happened. Someone was doing it. Without Bukkit, we have no way of catching them except in the act. Either we can just put up with it and watch as more and more stuff is stolen, and more and more buildings are dug up, and more and more beaches are destroyed... or we can gradually reduce the whitelist until it stops. Adding to the whitelist would only add more suspects.
Once burned, twice shy. You complain about trust issues, but our trust was JUST abused, quite a bit, by perpetrators unknown. It couldn't have been you, of course, but think about. Step back and try to look at it objectively. Why should we grant you the trust we granted the griefer? You know you won't grief, sure, but how can we know that? We thought we knew before and look where that got us. Do you understand what I'm saying here?
No, seriously, do you have a better idea? How about Tom just shuts the server down until Bukkit updates? That's fair, right? Is that what you were hoping for? Because I can't think of any other options.
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Post by jshwthrs on Nov 27, 2011 15:39:54 GMT 10
Clearly we trusted our members too much, Barz, considering at least one of them was griefing and/or stripmining. Stuff has been stolen and there has been damage that does not look at all like creeper damage or enderman mischief. And nobody is pointing any fingers! I have not heard one accusation, just complaints that griefing has taken place. So it's happened. Someone was doing it. Without Bukkit, we have no way of catching them except in the act. Either we can just put up with it and watch as more and more stuff is stolen, and more and more buildings are dug up, and more and more beaches are destroyed... or we can gradually reduce the whitelist until it stops. Adding to the whitelist would only add more suspects. Once burned, twice shy. You complain about trust issues, but our trust was JUST abused, quite a bit, by perpetrators unknown. It couldn't have been you, of course, but think about. Step back and try to look at it objectively. Why should we grant you the trust we granted the griefer? You know you won't grief, sure, but how can we know that? We thought we knew before and look where that got us. Do you understand what I'm saying here? No, seriously, do you have a better idea? How about Tom just shuts the server down until Bukkit updates? That's fair, right? Is that what you were hoping for? Because I can't think of any other options. Preach it brotha!
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Post by electrovir on Nov 27, 2011 16:42:12 GMT 10
Preach it brotha! sister*
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Post by liltom1993 on Nov 27, 2011 21:29:02 GMT 10
Well said Aya, and as she said Barz, I don't know who was griefing, so one person is spoiling for the rest of yous, and unless they own up I'm keeping the whitelist to a low. I've barely spoke to you either so I can't say I trust you any more than most anyway. Sorry to see you leave.
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Post by wackynames on Nov 28, 2011 9:38:25 GMT 10
*Newscast Voice* And in other news greifing is at an all time high since bukkit has not released their updated servers. Players from around the WahWahCraft world are complaining about said greifing, and the shortage of whitelisting has continued please stand by while bukkit takes the time to update. If you have any further knowledge of how to update a server then you must know how long it takes, And now to Tom with the further news.
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phollop
Wood Chopper
HAPPY PHOLLOP IS HAPPY!!!
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Post by phollop on Nov 29, 2011 6:33:58 GMT 10
Personally, even though I haven't been on the server for a day or so, I think people who take advantage of situations of weakness in a servers security deserve everything they get and if a few people are affected in the process then the only people they can blame are those who would stupidly take advantage in the first place.
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